Palin
September 9th, 2008. By AndrewWhat is it about Sara Palin that scares the shit out of me, and frankly, let’s admit it, all democrats? It’s plainly obvious that everyone is scared shitless by this woman, so let’s just end the denials and the false confidence. First we have to admit it, then we can try to figure out why we’re scared so we can beat her.
The problem is, I don’t really know why. It’s a feeling, there’s something about her and how she’s being received that makes me feel like we could be in trouble. She’s like a new product, and she makes the old one appear obsolete. It’s like when when a newer model iPod comes out, suddenly that old one just not as good. She’s got the sheen of newness about her. People love new products, and Obama’s been around for 9 months already. Bo-ring. Hope? …Did you hear Bristol is pregnant? For better or worse, well…for worse, she just dominates the mind. She’s just a huge, good-looking, distraction. And the primary person she’s distracting us from is John McCain. That guy still running? His daughter is hot. What, that’s his running mate?
Maybe because the Democrats are all dorks, and she seems like that stupid popular girl at your high school. Or those 8 stupid popular girls. And the scary part is people vote for that girl.
I’m not really sure how you beat the hot new product, the popular girl. I’m not sure Obama knows how to do that either. Is 57 days enough for people to get sick of her? Something else needs to happen. McCain needs to explode with anger on television, or maybe the debates will change things if there’s some moment that resonates. I don’t know, and I don’t think the Obama campaign planned for this contingency. Who could have expected them to? Can they figure her out in time? Can we? There’s not much time left. But first we have to admit we’re scared.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/9/143710/2371/534/592379
Palin has extensive connections in to the very heart of Radical Fundamentalist Christian Dominionism, including Joel’s Army, a group whose sworn ‘duty’ is to actively bring about a particular Armageddon prophecy which has been under refinement now for about 80 years.
Let me say that again, if McCain get’s elected, we will literally be just one heartbeat away (his) from putting a crazy, end of the world armageddon cult leader in charge of America’s nuclear arsenal.
Even if she’s not in an ‘end of the world’ mood, her Dominionist faith gives her no respect for little niceties of civilized societies such as any respect for rule of law or democratic pluralism…. In Joel’s army circles, representative government is a tool of Satan and something to be destroyed and replaced with nice, pure, totalitarian Christian Theocracy.
Please, I beg you, read more about the beliefs of this woman. I’m actively looking for someone who can tell me not to be terrified at the moment (I am), Because if her beliefs fall at _ALL_ in line with her churches, that bad feeling a lot peoples simple sixth sense for their own self-preservation.
Thank you.
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September 11th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Yes, that is part of what’s terrifying about her. But that wouldn’t be so terrifying if it wasn’t for the more fundamental fear: we think they might actually win it now. The horror…the horror.
Reply to Andrew
September 21st, 2008 at 6:02 pm
My goodness, why don’t you all go into a corner, curl up in the fetal position and weep quietly to yourselves. Sarah Palin is a normal woman with good faith, family values, a principled outlook on life, and a strong backbone. If that scares you, it makes me wonder what you think of our founding fathers….many of whom had these same characteristics. I suggest you pull your head out of that liberal fog (or wherever else it may be firmly planted) and get a grip on life. The first thing to do to allay your fear is to stop reading liberal lies and propaganda like the Daily Kos, whose sole purpose is to perpetuate lies and fear to push an ultra-liberal/socialist agenda. Why else would they be so outspoken about Sarah Palin? The horror is that this liberal slant has taken over most of the mainstream media. Journalism has died as we once knew it. All you have to do is watch 10-minutes MSNBC on any given night to see it. Are these the types of people you want running this great country? I think not. Government is the problem, not the solution…
Reply to Paul
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:22 am
Paul, there’s so much there that could get lost forever in this back an fourth, but here goes anyway:
“Sarah Palin is a normal woman with good faith, family values, a principled outlook on life, and a strong backbone.” Ok, firstly, normal woman? Totally subjective judgment. She’s certainly not that normal for an east-coast city dweller. Ok, I’m not even going to argue those qualities, I’ll just give them to you. She’s got good faith, and principles (HA! The aspiration to power is her only principle) anyway, sure she’s all those things. Conspicuously absent from that list are the words qualified, ready, intelligent, or experienced.
Thirdly, MSNBC is clearly a liberal bastion, but have you ever watched that other channel, Fox? Yeah, so don’t give me that liberal media bs. It especially makes sense that the media would be liberal as so much of it is owned by rich conservatives like Murdock, and you know, no one listens to their boss. Oh, and the influence of lefty websites like Kos pales in comparison to the influence of righty websites like Drudge.
Anyway, Palin scares me not because she is a “normal woman” as you say, but because she is a) incompetent and b) could win. That is the same deadly combination that brought us 8 years of George Bush and all the ruin he has reigned upon this country.
Reply to Andrew
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Well, I am an east coast city dweller as well, although, I grew up on a dairy farm in the northeast. I guess you cold say I have lived both lives, and I do not see why she would be such a threat to a “city dweller”. Because she likes to hunt and fish? What is it?
I am not sure what you base the assertion that her only principle is the aspiration to power. I could just as easily argue that is what drives most politicians, in particular, Barack Obama. I guess one good subjective judgement deserves another, eh? And when you talk about qualifications and experience, you are on very shaky ground if you are an Obama supporter. Obama is at the TOP of the ticket and has NO executive experience. Half of his Senatorial experience has been spent running his Presidential campaign. Palin is the VP candidate and at least has executive experience as a Mayor and Governor. I will concede that she does not have a ton of experience, but in comparison to Obama, she has more executive experience. You have also made an unqualified judgement statement about her intelligence and competence. What do you know of her intelligence and competency? Say you disagree with her views, but to question her intelligence and competence speaks more about you than her. And before you trot out the “Bush Doctrine” incident from the Gibson interview as an example of her ineptitude, be honest and tell me that you knew what the Bush Doctrine is/was. Even Charlie Gibson didn’t know what it was (he stated it incorrectly). There are at least 6 different definitions of the Bush Doctrine, and none of them were put out by the adminsitration as a statement of “the Bush Doctrine”. So for her to ask for clarification from Gibson was (in my opinion) entirely appropriate. For Gibson to try and play gotcha with a question is pretty pathetic, especially when he didn’t even know what it was! It appeared to me an attempt by the liberal media to color her uneducated. I will concede that her statement that “she can actually see Russia from Alaska” was an bad and unfortunate gaffe….but if you want gaffes, I can give you just as many stated by Barack “57 states” Obama and Joe “Stand Up” Biden. I personally do not let one or two mis-statements to color my overall opinion of a candidate. After all, they are all human.
As far as news, I watch MSNBC, Fox and CNN, and they are ALL biased. However, for every Fox News, there are 3-4 more liberal-biased news media outlets. And the outcry against Fox is so vociferous, when some of their programming is much more balanced. At least they usually try to have both sides of an issue presented. You rarely see that on Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews, who routinely make outrageous statements as if they are reporting it as fact (vice opinion). I personally don’t read Drudge (nor Kos)…..quite honestly, it is hard to find any honest journalism out there…hence my statement that journalism is dead in America.
I realize that there are many opinions out there, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. My reply above was reacting to an overly fearsome response to the leftist, liberal media….telling me that the first commentor took the daily Kos propoganda hook, line and sinker. That kind of blind following just burns me up. It tells me that the outlets like the Daily Kos (and Fox News for that matter) do a good job of leading the blind into irrational positions. Honestly, I would probably be more sympathetic to some liberal causes if I weren’t so sickened by their methods of trying to attain power.
Reply to Paul
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:10 pm
The aspiration to power thing somewhat of an offhand Hyperbole, but I had some basis for it. I mean, essentially she said palin-mccain administration, twice. She looks like she’s grossed out by John every time they’re close. And I heard some anecdote about her talking bout being president 10 years ago or whenever she first became mayor. Like I said, off hand hyperbole, let’s drop that one. As for not qualified or…what did I say? intelligence. Well, she went to five colleges in six years to obtain a journalism degree. She has said, and keeps saying beyond the Gibson interview, that Alaska being near Russia gives her foreign policy experience. I loved when Gibson asked her what insights that gave her into the Georgia situation. (Because if she’s going to assert it gives her experience, that’s a perfectly fair question).
As for no executive experience you can’t really say anything either because McCain has none also. And you have to admit that always, but especially with McCain being so old, that there’s a decent chance Sara Palin will be president if McCain wins. As someone who claims to care about the war on terror that should be a frightening prospect. Obama and Biden both know more about foreign policy than she does.
And you keep asserting that I’m scared of her, as like a person, and I’m not. I’m scared of her running this country. Different things. I just don’t think she’s qualified. Also, she seems to have a problem with abusing power. I guess we have to wait to hear about this troopergate thing, but it doesn’t sound good. And the book banning. And there’s also a weird anti-intellectualism in this country. You say “honest and tell me that you knew what the Bush Doctrine is/was” and that may be true, but it’s beside the point! I’m not running for vp. And why shouldn’t the president and vice president be smarter than me? I want them to be smarter than me! It’s a very complicated job. Example, do I want my airplane pilot to be as good at flying as I am? No, I want him to be much much better. The president shouldn’t be someone you want to have a beer with. He, or she, should be that nerd who was always studying, who’s quiet and knows the rules and is good at what he does and doesn’t make flippant unconsidered decisions. That man is Barack Obama.
I agree about the media. But you can’t tell me Fox is balanced…at all…any more than I can tell you MSNBC is. Period. They are mirrors of each other. And I like MSNBC, but I know what I’m watching. And it’s not news. CNN isn’t news either but that’s just because they’re all morons.
Reply to Andrew
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Well, as far as aspiration to power….I am certain it is something that every politician has. I think you read way too much into Palin’s Palin-McCain comment…that is really a stretch, again drummed into a frenzy by the liberal media, frantic to find things to criticize her on. I still refuse to accept your claims against her intelligence simply because she has a journalism degree from multiple schools. Some of the wisest, most intelligent people I know never spent a minute in college. They learned by life experience, which in my opinion is far more effective than rote learning. Furthermore, having attained a BS and MS from a very well known liberal college, I will be the first to say that some of the curriculum was more ideology indoctrination than it was a real education. So, I refuse to judge people’s intelligence simply by a degree or institution. Quite honestly, I do not pretend to know her level of intelligence as I don’t know enough about her (I can say the same of Obama and Biden as well). I do know that the media is not a good source for determining it either. I simply have to judge her by her actions and statements, and a certain amount of faith. This is true of all the candidates, with the exception of McCain (whom I know more about).
As far as Executive experience, you are right in that McCain hasn’t been a mayor or Governor either. Therefore, it is not a discriminator between the two candidates. My point was simply that there is a shrill from the left that Palin has no experience, and I was simply pointing out that she has more executive experience than Obama. Yet, you don’t hear a peep out of liberals about Obama’s experience, and he is at the top of the ticket. It is such a lopsided treatment of the question of experience. I am willing to concede that Palin’s relative lack of experience is a liability that concerns me. But I am much more concerned by Obama’s, since he would be the heart beat of the Presidency if elected. I would also like to know what you think Obama’s foreign policy experience is?
You talk of Palin having a problem abusing power. I haven’t seen anything other than accusations, and considering the source of the accusations I am more than a bit circumspect. If you are worried about abuses of power, what do you think of Obama using his political clout to curry favors from Tony Rezko in his property dealings and buying land adjacent to his house at market value, and then selling it to Obama at a cut rate? These are just accusations as well, but are a matter of public record….no matter how under-reported.
As far as the Bush Doctrine comments, you partially missed my point. My point was that the question was dubious in that there was no “book” answer to the question. She simply asked for clarification and then proceeded with what I thought was a cogent response. The fact that it didn’t fit Charlie Gibson’s definition of the Bush Doctrine (the wrong definition by the way), is not an indictment on HER intelligence, no matter what the elistist media types would say as they pout and look over the tops of their glasses.
Lastly, I certainly believe that Fox is biased and are not as fair and balanced as they make themselves out to be. However, I think they are more fair and balanced than MSNBC which is simply disgusting and a disgrace to journalism. The major networks of NBC, CBS and ABC are not much better than MSNBC. It is hard to find any outlet that knows what journalism is any more.
Reply to Paul
September 29th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
“Some of the wisest, most intelligent people I know never spent a minute in college.”
Fair but that doesn’t mean not going to college makes you wise. And I’m judging her more on what she’s said in public appearances and interviews than her record.
“My point was simply that there is a shrill from the left that Palin has no experience, and I was simply pointing out that she has more executive experience than Obama.”
I agree the dems are playing this card wrong. They should just say nothing and use Palin as defense if McCain tries to go after Obama’s experience again.
“I would also like to know what you think Obama’s foreign policy experience is?”
He serves on the Foreign relations committee. Other than that he just seems like he knows a lot more about foreign policy than she does. It’s not much, but that’s precisely why he chose Biden. Because he knows he doesn’t have as much experience as he could, so he’s strengthening his weakness by having a very knowledgeable number 2.
And once again we agree, there is little to no professional journalism in this country.
Reply to Andrew
October 1st, 2008 at 11:16 am
Oh also, you wanted to know why I think she’s stupid; here’s a pretty good example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y
She can’t name one newspaper! Not one! A journalism major! And more importantly than that, a potential vp and president of the United States! Can I change my answer above to Obama knows more about foreign affairs than her because he reads the paper? Because apparently that’s all it takes to be more versed on current events than Sara Palin.
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